. . . "drinksSeptember 14, 2006, 07:39 PMActually, a .44 or .45 hard cast of 350 to 500 gr,applied in the manner of a suppository, will do very little meat damage and if sent off at at least 1300 to 1700fps, will handle south to north on anything up to and including Moose and Brown Bear, including a neat 1/2 exit hole." . .