"Even though it is been years since I have been excited to board a new ship... the hope is still there.I guess most of us ''old players'' feel the same way.Though i am noticing more and more are sick of the wait and move on to other games.At least from a personal perspective i have seen a lot of the old friends leave this year .I do agree with both of you on some points however i feel eve is a game were" . . . .