"thanks... i guess if it gets loud i will get a return thing from riff raff.. i was told most of the time it is not to loud without one... i just got the set and it didn't have one but i have a newer#8 ll in there i didn't know should i keep it in and change all the others or go with all 8 new. they are all matched up do i didn't know if i change that up or keep them all the same with no LL" . . . .