. . "Politics are a process and the more we engage the better as socialist we get at it.We need to to learn how to crawl first and I think y'alls discussion is a tad premature as how much of it is grounded in concrete practice. y'all have personally engaged in.I am a bit bent more to the practical.I am not saying anything y'all are saying is not worthwhile it is.I got into socialism over forty years ago" . .