. . . . "Me? i would buy Creative products any time. i have a ZEN VISION:M right now, and that thing was supposed to be from the same generation that the iPod 4thGen was from i think. and believe me, the Creative is a million times better than the iPod!i could start and never end with the comparisons! first of all, Apple thinks people live in a world where they can lead their whole life matching movies in" .