"There are a few people who seem to run around helping out with OZ (lardman comes to mind) who might also be helped by splitting things into \"stuff than can be solved on board in oz and \"stuff that can be done in OE --as well as the very important development of a knowledgeable oe user..yes OE user, not OE developer base ( systems are used by users and oe is a sytem, so....)." . . . .