Posts 119 nihil is somewhat right in his assumption to what im asking. i realize now that 8char/int passwords are somewhat simple, i havent worried about security and such (password-wise) since like 1995 (lol?). but i know that people are capable of cracking up to 24 especially with the computers we have now, and BROADBAND which is available everywhere now. back then we had 56k and if you were luc