Howard Schultz says: August 30, 2012 at 9:15 am Rick thanks, I see the stuborness and thought patterns of the twelve, it is hard to toss everything one has learned from birth on, it is hard to die to ones flesh, it takes practice each day dying daily to flesh in ones mind, seeing you are only alive in the Spirit of God and that their is nothing more for you to do, except believe, trust and god wil