Both are available at <a href="http://alien.dowling.edu/~cperring/aapp/bulletin.htm.)">http://alien.dowling.edu/~cperring/aapp/bulletin.htm.)</a> Interest in this topic is reflected in the fact that the second Bulletin issue, with commentaries on Frances??? extended response in the first issue, and his responses to the commentaries, reached over 70,000 words.Also in 2010, as Frances continued his critique through blog postings in Psychiatric Times, John Sadler and