Lobeck and Hermann however stoutly deny that there was any such thing as lyrical tragedy or comedy distinct from dramatical tragedy and comedy, and yet not the same with dithyrambs or phallic songs, and affirm that the tragedies and comedies which we hear of before the rise of the regular drama were only a species of dithyramb and phallic song (Hermann, de Tragoedia Comoediaque Lyrica, in Opusc. v