Btw, Ed Whelan points out that in fact the best reading of the state law is to give them standing. <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/243232/prop-8-proponents-motion-ninth-circuit-stay-standing-ed-whelanState">http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/243232/prop-8-proponents-motion-ninth-circuit-stay-standing-ed-whelanState</a> precedent allows for it, because, well, otherwise you undermine the very concept of an initiative like this. which i suspect to some people is a feature, not a bug.wv: burpti