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  • The argument here is not that god is a bad guy who tortures people - or, in your position, allows (?????) torture so that people can grow in grace and find peace in the face of death...funny, I thought that somewhere in that bible I read that grace was a gift...given not by our merits by a loving god who paid for our indebtedness to him by dying on the cross for us and gave us charis" free of cha
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