I have had words with my fair share of car drivers"you want to have it both ways" is so often a come backthe four way stop may be the most simple example of a place where it is dangerous and unfair for the cyclist to obey the lawwhen I stop at a four way stop I am rarely granted my waynormally I need to put my bike and body out in front of the car driver to get my rightful turnoccasionally a car d