Pleased for them, but need a moment.Ms Heathen,horrid when this starts to affect friendships.Jane, looks like you have both extremes good on your brother-in-law though.Secret D, Ha, yes a HPT is definately the best way.Xbox, I have said it bofore but just so people do not get the wrong idea most of my best friends are fertiles, I love the fertiles, BUT I just need a moment to remember that sometimes.Re