Both of these were purchased from QVC in either 1989 or 1990, when Virginia Olsen was the Nesco rep, and both are still in good working condition. :-) it is especially nice in the summer to use the roaster on the patio for baking or for barbecue ribs, or just about any oven cooking and not heat up my kitchen.--FranFranIgnore User#4 of 12Quote|Report InappropriateConstant G??ardener1260296423173 P