We have to be looking for the Christological message of scripture ??? and we have to stop forcing scripture into our expected mold. phil_style a wee addendum: George Murphy???s 2006 paper remains, for me, one of the most interesting articles on this subject: <a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF6-06Murphy.pdf">http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF6-06Murphy.pdf</a> Chris Criminger Hi RJS, I liked your response . . .